Michelle Eichelberger: Okay, welcome everybody to our presentation today on using local collections and ges for custom linking and primo ve this is a presentation that Nancy and I did at Luna in May and we thought it would be great if we could also present it for you, because not everybody has the account information to get into the Luna portal that has the slides and all of that. So
Michelle Eichelberger: If you don't know me, I'm Michelle Ikelberger and I work for Suny Olis. I'm the discovery. An eresources program manager and sports specialist, and I'll be presenting with Nancy Babb, who is at the University of Buffalo
Michelle Eichelberger: and the plan today is I'm gonna give kind of a general overview about why you'd wanna set these up, you know, kind of generally what you can do with it. And then Nancy's gonna give you a lot of really amazing specific information about how all the pieces work and what buffalo has done, and what they found works better in some situations than in others, feel free to put questions in chat. We'll try and keep an eye on that, and we are just going to get started here.
Michelle Eichelberger: So Oops sorry.
So what is custom linking?
Michelle Eichelberger: He set it up in Alma. and what it does is, it lets you add links for content that is not available in the community zone. So these are electronic things. So you know, maybe you have
Michelle Eichelberger: a collection that doesn't work exactly how you want it to or like. There's no portfolios in the Cz. So this is a way you can set up like a custom search for things.
Michelle Eichelberger: It lets you pull metadata out of the vib record or the Cdi search record and then send it on to somewhere else. And when I say metadata, you know, that could be either like bibliographic information, like a mark record, or the Cdi search records have what's called a CTO that you can get into and look at the different fields that are being used in that record, and I will show you an example of that in a minute.
Michelle Eichelberger: But these things are built with 2 pieces of information. What you need is a search, URL. And then you're gonna feed a piece of information from these these records in Primo into that URL. And it's gonna automatically go out and search. The opportunities are endless. There really is no end to what you can do with this. You know, I feel like we've barely scratched the surface on it. It's really quite cool. What you can do.
Michelle Eichelberger: So
Michelle Eichelberger: the reason I started looking into this, we have a support contract with Fredonia. And actually so, Fredonia has New York Times.
Michelle Eichelberger: The Site license which a lot of places have, and what there's no.
Michelle Eichelberger: there's no way to search the New York Times like the public. New York Times from Alma Primo, and what we're running into was the situation where? Because the Cdi is so huge there are so many search records in there. It's not just the search records that go with the vendors that you're using, and there's multiple editions of the paper.
Michelle Eichelberger: So there, you know, there could be search records from the late edition. There could be search records from the you know, the official daily edition, and you know maybe Gail doesn't have.
Michelle Eichelberger: They only subscribe to content for the daily edition. So if you have a search record that's matching that says, Oh, hey, you have the New York Times. I'm gonna give you all of the New York times search records, including all this stuff you can't really get. There were a lot of false hits, so we wanted to try and find a way that you could redo your search.
Michelle Eichelberger: Just go out to the New York Times and redo your search.
Michelle Eichelberger: The other thing that ends up in your search records sometimes are, you know, blog hits. I've seen this less lately. It's really more the different editions that's been the problem.
Michelle Eichelberger: so you know, the Site license newspaper packages aren't really set up to use any kind of dynamic linking. It's just a link to that site, you know. It won't redo your search for you when you get there, or send you a specific link to something from that place.
So Nancy is going to give you some other examples of why you might want to use custom linking
Michelle Eichelberger: so you could do anything you could go do a Google search from Primo. You could, you know. Here's my New York Times search example. So the the 2, like I said, the 2 pieces you need are you have to figure out how the search string works in your external site where you're trying to send people.
Michelle Eichelberger: So that's the first part of it. So what I did to figure out, you know, here's an example. If you were going to be you wanted to set one up for Crossraft. For some reason you want to send people out of Primo. Have them search cross, using some data from a record in primo.
Michelle Eichelberger: But first you have to figure out, well, how does cross ref search? So in this case, here's the string that they use for searching, you know, from underscore ui equals Ampersand, Q. Equals. And then here's the field that you would have to pull out of the record to to go do a search for that thing.
Michelle Eichelberger: So Google, their search string, you know, basically just do a search. And then you go and look for the piece of it that's causing the search for it. So for Google, this is this the query, you know, it's search question, mark queue equals. And then this is the dynamic piece of it. This is the field that you're gonna wanna pull in from the record so it can send it out and go do that search for you.
Michelle Eichelberger: So the second step is to figure out which field you want to search.
Michelle Eichelberger: So if you want to see what the underlying metadata is for a search record that's coming from the Cdi. The Central Discovery Index. If you add and display CTO to the end of your search. Result, URL.
Michelle Eichelberger: It would look like this. You just add and display CTO equals. True, what you get is this little
Michelle Eichelberger: link it actually like reopens the page and then plunks that link in here. So if you click on that. this shows you everything that's going on underneath the hood, and this is really good to know about, because this can help you with troubleshooting. Feel like, why isn't this link showing on this thing? I know we have this thing. If you keep scrolling down on that page, it'll show you if it's being suppressed because of date coverage, or if it's being suppressed because you have a display logic rule. It's a super handy thing to know about, but it really breaks down.
Michelle Eichelberger: you know. Sometimes it's hard to tell, just from the few lines that are here, what's really going on underneath.
Michelle Eichelberger: But it shows you all of the pieces of this search record, you know. So au is author pub date. Here's, you know, the publication date, the
Michelle Eichelberger: the title. So in this case, what I wanted to do to allow for don't need to be able to search the site license for the New York Times. I wanted to search by title, and you can play around with this. You can try all different combinations of things. I was trying to start super simple, because
Michelle Eichelberger: I just thought, you know.
Michelle Eichelberger: that would be something I would want to search for. And again, with the late edition and the daily edition. Sometimes the title for the same article is totally different, and that's why the the links are failing. Going to Gail, because they're like we don't have this article, but they do have it, but they only have the daily edition of it. They don't have the late edition of it, so it's not findable in their indexing.
So anyway, you kind of look through here. See what field you think would be the best to do your external search, and you would copy that information.
Michelle Eichelberger: So then the combo of those 2 things, you know, this is what a search looks like on, just, you know, if you're out on the New York Times, and you're doing a search. This is what the query looks like, and then you would use brackets. And then, whatever you want to pull from the CTO
Michelle Eichelberger: And Justin at Ub, he did a lot of testing with the New York Times, and he's actually done really sophisticated searching with this sometimes adding data author could remove relevant search results. But I think since we did this presentation, he's found some better ways to really make it more specialized and work really. Well.
Michelle Eichelberger: I'm a generalist. I'm starting out with the most simple thing, and then it can be tailored. After that I did create an FAQ about this, and I did post about it in base camp. So there are really specific instructions of how to set this up. We're going to talk about it real quickly here. But you know, after the presentation, if you want to go out and look at that. We will be sharing the slides, and we'll get that link for you.
Michelle Eichelberger: So there's 2 ways you can set these up. You can either set it up as a local collection like an electronic, not a discovery collection, electronic resources collection. Or you could set it up as a general electronic service. And if you've done any work with Ges's general electronic services, these are things like you can make links to Iliad. If you use Iliad for article
Michelle Eichelberger: fulfillment. There's a lot of different things you can do with gees. And again, Nancy is going to show you some examples of that. So this is just, you know the differences between the 2 ways. To set these up the GES. You would do and config fulfillment, discovery, interplay, interface, display, logic.
Michelle Eichelberger: you can only add one field at a time as you're kind of setting these up. And I mentioned this because
Michelle Eichelberger: if you're trying to apply this to a lot of cases that can be kind of a
Michelle Eichelberger: paying to do it that way. The the way we even I even found out how to set up these kind of custom links was we were working with reprints desk to talk about, you know. How do you set up a link in an article to go out to reprints desk, you know, and you could do it either way. You could do it in the Ges. But in that case you would have to pick every single journal that you would want it
Michelle Eichelberger: applied to and manually add them. You know this is N, or this is N, or this is, and it's kind of fiddly to do that. If you do it as a collection, you could load those through portfolio load, or you wouldn't have to do it one at a time.
Michelle Eichelberger: But any case, you know, these are the different places it can display. This is pretty easy to control whether you want the patron to have to log in to see the link, or if it'll just be automatically visible when somebody's searching, not logged in to primo, you can affiliate it by user groups. So there are definitely some benefits to it.
Michelle Eichelberger: The nice thing about using a collection to do this, a local collection is that the link will appear
Michelle Eichelberger: in the same section with all of the other links for that which we really wanted for the New York Times for Fernonia, because
we wanted to be able to
Michelle Eichelberger: put it above the gale links. So this would be kind of the default first line of, you know connection just because the gale links kept failing. So we wanted to be able to do it that way.
Michelle Eichelberger: It's tied to a portfolio big record which can give you a little more control. And like, I was saying in terms of the reprints desk, if you want to do. If you want this to work on a lot of
Michelle Eichelberger: things. It's easier to load those things in bulk through a collection. And then, as I said, you can use display order to to put that link above any other collections that might match on this particular record.
Michelle Eichelberger: For both of them. You can add a public note. They can use be used with display. Order in terms of, I should have said, display logic, I think, in terms of to hide or display based on criteria. I may be mixing up those phrases, but
Michelle Eichelberger: they both have some benefits.
Michelle Eichelberger: Excuse me
Michelle Eichelberger: so. The Ges. This is where it lives. Your link format would look something like this, just depending on how you structured that lookup link. you could choose to only display it if it if the item is not owned, you know.
Michelle Eichelberger: and then there's you can do more granular filtering. This is where I was talking about. You know you have all these rules. So if you did have a lot of cases where you want this to apply, you'd have to add a rule for each one individually, which you know.
Michelle Eichelberger: If that's how you want to do it. That's great, you know. You can play around with various things.
Michelle Eichelberger: And then this is a really great slide that Nancy put together with very specific details about, you know here all the different places this stuff can show up. You know here things that you can do through the Ges and different kinds of settings you can use and I know she's gonna show you some more examples of specifics of how it looks on Buffalo side, and all of those things.
Michelle Eichelberger: If you wanted to go the collection route, which is what that FAQ. Has, you would create a local collection. and then in the edit service linking tab, you would add your dynamic Yeah, URL,
which looks like this. And then the titles that you want it to apply to you could add here through the portfolios. Tab.
Michelle Eichelberger: The public note is really helpful, particularly for something like the New York Times, where it's a site license where it's free to search it. But if you want to read the article, I think you get like 10 free articles a month, so you'd wanna put a note in there that says to the patron, Oh, hey! Make sure that you've activated your New York Times account. You could put a link to the instructions for that account.
Michelle Eichelberger: It does allow HTML in the note. so you can put a link in there.
Michelle Eichelberger: you know, just to give people a little more information about. You know how this service works and what you might need to do.
so there is that information. So here's what it looked like. So
Michelle Eichelberger: here is the print edition title is different from the late edition title. So
Michelle Eichelberger: you can see here. This is the result from in the New York Times.
Michelle Eichelberger: So the print edition was Brooklyn Diocese Fires, Gay Teacher. But the late edition, which is also certain, you know both of these things are searchable on the New York Times site. Hence the benefit of setting up something like this that goes out and searches there. So the titles are completely different. So if you get a search record for this
Michelle Eichelberger: which is here, you know it comes up because it's matching. It matches on the Issn. You get everything from the Cdi that matches on that. You can't pick and choose. Well, I only want. you know, print edition.
Michelle Eichelberger: These links all failed. These gale links failed because they were looking for this title, not this title.
Michelle Eichelberger: So what we did was we set up the academic pass. And now, if you click on that link, it will give you that result because this title is searchable on the New York Times. It's they. They search both versions of the title.
Michelle Eichelberger: which is a good thing. But again. You know, people have to know that they have to log in if they aren't. you know, if they don't kind of keep that open and logged in all the time, so that you know
Michelle Eichelberger: it's not completely perfect. But at least it's a step in the right direction to getting people to the data that you are paying for.
and that is it. I'm going to pass it over to Nancy.
Nancy Babb: Okay, thanks so much, Michelle. What I'm going to share is just some of our use cases here at ub, we take really kind of a problem. Fix it. Approach to things.
Nancy Babb: we find the Gs, the custom. Gs can be really helpful when there's something
Nancy Babb: we something is going wrong, and we wanna slap kind of a quick fix on it. It might be a long term fix, but definitely it gives us the ability to help our users sometimes really quickly. Which is, which is really great.
Nancy Babb: Some.
Nancy Babb: So the the kind of 3 categories that we have the desire to supplement or enhance links that are going out to other resources from our Cdi records when links just aren't working or aren't sufficient to improve the links that are coming into Primo from the other services, like things coming in from pubmed or Google scholar, or those sorts of things that are actually going to the primo services pages.
Nancy Babb: Sometimes we can fix things there and then, also just kind of providing some contextual point of problem, help and documentation, because it gives us the ability to add some public notes
Nancy Babb: within the body of the record. There's some caveats to this, though
Nancy Babb: in some cases a custom. Gs general electronic service is perfect. It's just what you just what they're made for just what you want to use them for all the time. So links to Iliad forms. For example, if you're not using the default
Nancy Babb: resource sharing forms. Gds is a perfect way of tying in your Iliad. Request forms right?
Nancy Babb: In other cases they are really just as I mentioned, temporary quick fixes. You really want things to work
Nancy Babb: robustly. You really want a solution to be in place. If a link isn't working, if a link is broken, you don't wanna be always applying a quick fix. You want those links to get fixed. However. A quick fix is good while things are being worked out.
Nancy Babb: some warnings, though. So, although we can add these outgoing links, and they're really helpful, they aren't used to calculate availability display in the results or in the brief record. And I have an example to show you the the problem with that on another slide.
Nancy Babb: The records have to exist already in the Cdi. So if I'm trying to link back in from an outside source.
Nancy Babb: If it's something that just isn't indexed in the Cdi, I'm not going to be able to supply a link to it.
Nancy Babb: and there are some alternatives. You can create local collections. As Michelle mentioned. You can do some custom. Js, like some custom coding in your primo instance, and you also always can make use of your resource. Rack off vendors. So let's go through. But talk about the fun stuff. Now, where is our problem? And how are we gonna fix it?
Nancy Babb: Okay? So content, that is indexed in the Cdi. But for some reason our links just aren't working. And I gave an example record here for a buffalo news. Okay, we have some buffalo news coverage. It's important to us. It's our our local hometown newspaper, and we found that
Nancy Babb: none of the links were really welcome.
Nancy Babb: Really working well, there's limited
Nancy Babb: coverage within Ebsco.
Nancy Babb: and none of the links are working. We're getting that terrible Epsco, hey? We're not able to find you. -Oh, it just wasn't working the Buffalo News collection we have in Newsbank. It's good, but it doesn't give you a link to the exact
Nancy Babb: article. So you're just getting in there. And okay, we have buffalo news. But what are we getting from it? So our our, or how do our users actually find that content? So our solution was to create a a general electronic service using the Issn, so basically, we're saying, anytime. You see, this is in the record. Add a link that will go to Newsbank and follow this.
Nancy Babb: this open URL Chain to actually search for the article. And here we go. Now we have that article. The the
Nancy Babb: good news is that this has been improved radically. We changed collections. We did some additional work, and I don't think we are still even using this particular Ges we might be. But II don't think we are. I think we're using. We're able to make use of improvements to the
Nancy Babb: newsbank collection. But that's a good thing. Let's go on to the next one. Okay, this is a case where kind of building on that same idea
Nancy Babb: collections where the link resolver links will only go to the journal level or the title level and not go to the article level. It's especially frustrating, frustrating for newspaper content. It's one thing when it's a journal, or at least you think the user may be able to navigate to a particular issue in a particular article. But for newspapers, how in the world do you
Nancy Babb: tell a user to navigate that like, okay, here's 11 billion newspaper articles go mad, find it? And it's
Nancy Babb: yeah. So sometimes it's not that bad, but it. But it's pretty bad to to take your users saying, yes, here we have access to this article. But guess what? We're just going to take you to the the title level for it, and we discovered that with News bank
Nancy Babb: it's very the open URL stream really supports the
Nancy Babb: the fields right searching by Field. So what we were able to put in there was, the headline which is actually matching to the article title, the date just kind of a a broad date, not an individual date, because that may vary, depending on what edition, and then in all text the name of the newspaper, because sometimes that might be in a different field. And we discovered that works really pretty well. And there's actually a a link from exile that describes how to get to that.
Nancy Babb: How how to implement this particular change for this particular
Nancy Babb: this particular collection. There's also in the Gs when you go to attitude, there are some public ones that you can add, and I think this is one of them. Are
Nancy Babb: great co-worker. Justin figured out.
Nancy Babb: A more advanced GESA. More advanced open URL string that we're using, that we'd be happy to share with anybody who would like it.
Nancy Babb: But this is a great example, where will probably always use this until such point that
Nancy Babb: ex libress and News Bank come to an agreement to say yes will allow article level, indexing, and linking, and if they don't, we'll probably always use this because it's great for our users, and it works pretty well
Nancy Babb: alrighty. So another thing that we do. Another reason we use the Gs has to do with trying to save the time of the user by not
Nancy Babb: exposing them or exposing to them too many links. So we consolidate, we try to consolidate our links by interface. So we often have content that is, coming from multiple collections in the same, from the same interface. So.
Nancy Babb: for example, with the journal science, we have it from Aaas. We have it in 5 different J store collections in 8 different gale collections. We also have it from the Biodiversity Heritage Library and from an OP-ed collection. And for user, looking at that, it's just it's boggling. What link are they supposed to use.
Nancy Babb: I know it's like this embarrassment of riches. Right? II should complain because we have access to all these collections. Honestly, I'm happy. We have access to all these collections. But there's not a really good way to
Nancy Babb: make it easy for the user to navigate these. And one of the solutions that we've come up with, which is not a perfect solution, but one of the ways that we try to resolve this is to consolidate and say, well, only show me one link from jstor, one link from Gail.
Nancy Babb: and so on. So instead of seeing all of these links, 16 links, we only show 4 links 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 links. but there's a drawback. There's something missing here. We go to the next slide.
Nancy Babb: Sometimes when we're consolidating those links.
Nancy Babb: We're missing something. So as an example for the Times, the Times of London, there's we have it in multiple sources again. We can see here. There's so many of them.
Nancy Babb: But it's in different formats. So, for example, there's the collection, the Gale sun Gauge Times digital Archive. That's actually the full text facsimile of the Times of London, which is really different from an aggregator that only has the full text right? And some of our users may want to be using that facsimile edition. And it's really different from the aggregator. So if we're consolidating all the aggregators.
that's great, our users probably don't care. They don't care what aggregator they're getting it from. They just want the text. But if they're actually looking for a facsimile, we do them a big disservice by not giving them.
Nancy Babb: Access to that if we're hiding it in favor of an aggregator. So what we do is we created a custom G es, for just that specific collection that we wanna pull out. So we're consolidating on Gail to show only one basic link from Gail. But then we're using a Ges to also add that custom link for the digital archive and that's
Nancy Babb: great. However, dot dot dot.
Nancy Babb: you can't calculate the availability. It will be be displayed, you can, you know, add a note about it under you can hopefully, you can see on there our bottom link for Gail's engaged times. Digital Archive, it says, avail available from 1785 until 2,019.
Nancy Babb: That's great. The user will see that they'll know that it's there in terms of the articles that actually appear, they will appear anyways, because the calculation that goes on for at the article level happens, regardless of what you display here, however, you can see up at top. And this is also what would display in our results.
Nancy Babb: You don't see it, you just say, Oh, coverage from 1,985, because it's only reading what was included in the
Nancy Babb: primary gale link that we're we're showing. So
Nancy Babb: that is a big, alas for us. But that's the caveat that that's the the cost of it.
Nancy Babb: alrighty. So, looking at the opposite direction, so not links that are going out, but links that are coming in. There are some limitations for what our incoming open URL searches can do. For example, they can only trigger content.
Nancy Babb: That is. Lincoln record has a portfolio right? There needs to be a way for that link to find
Nancy Babb: a trigger in Alma to say yes, you have this content, and I'm going to provide a link for you, and that doesn't generally happen, or it doesn't at all happen with a database type collection. The system Alma doesn't know what exists in that collection. Primo knows. But that's not where the communication. That's not where the the
Nancy Babb: delivery is applied. So one of the things you can do. Sometimes it works in this case is, you can add a custom. Gs, to say, Okay, well, with this type of request is coming into the system. Add a link for that. In this particular case it is
Nancy Babb: or
Nancy Babb: theses, dissertations and theses. Essentially, we know that our our proquest dissertations, they're not going to be used to provide a link for any search that's coming in from another database. So we say we know that most most often
Nancy Babb: a link for dissertation is going to be in proquest. So we add this custom. Gs. That says, if it's a dissertation. add this link and then provide it out to the source. And this is another
Nancy Babb: link that I think isn't available as a public Ges, something that exile has some recommendations for putting in place. It's another one that Justin was able to improve for us by adding some logic that says, Okay, only displayed in these particular circumstances. For example.
Nancy Babb: if it is coming from a different source. I forget which ones exactly, but a couple of other sources that we get dissertations from, that we can't build the links on in those particular cases don't apply the link right. And we also added a little note that says, if the item isn't available, you can request it. And we also kind of change it to say, search in proquest dissertation. So that they'll know, okay, that's actually what's happening. And we know
Nancy Babb: that's what's happening. Let's go on to the next. I think I have another one. Yeah, similar. And this is a really specialized use case.
Nancy Babb: The open URL searches. They can't apply physical only journal holdings. If there's no issm right? Typically as long as there's an Issn goes into Alma to say, Oh, yes, almost says, do you have that? Yeah, okay, yes, it can apply it. But if there's no Issn, there's no way for that availability to be calculated. Typically, that's that's fine, right?
Nancy Babb: I mean, it's it's not that it's fine, but it's normal, like, how are you going to do it? If you don't have a unique identifier.
Nancy Babb: and we understand that, however, we had a case where for our architecture students, they didn't know that we help hold this very important journal in print in print only for Ga houses. So our architecture, librarian, and other architecture scholars, professors, would always advocate. Okay, use Avery index for your searching. This is where you need to go. Most of it is not indexed in primo. It's very specialized material.
Nancy Babb: So they go into the Avery Index. Do a lot of searching. It's it's abstract and indexing, only that's wonderful, wonderful, wonderful! But when they check through to see if we hold it, they wouldn't see that we held Ga. Housing or Ga. Houses in print. So what we did is we built
Nancy Babb: a custom Ges based on the title, and fortunately, because Ga. Houses is uncommon enough, we were able to do the combination of the
Nancy Babb: the title, and the resource type to say, whenever that type of link comes in. add this little link that says, that goes to the record for Ga. Houses in print with a note that says, Hey, check the physical holdings and the link to request. It is still there, but it also is giving the information to our students. Our architecture students especially. You can't get this stuff quickly, just like your professor told you.
Nancy Babb: okay.
Nancy Babb: problems would be cases where, yeah, this is something really kind of
Nancy Babb: kind of new. This, this is something we ran into. Well, it's a problem that started before Illuna. But I started looking at Gs as a fix for it
Nancy Babb: after Aluna. Sometimes the searches that are coming in.
Nancy Babb: There's problems in the source metadata that we can't fix, and we can try to work with the outside vendor to fix that link. But how do you make that happen? A really good example of that Google? Have you tried to get Google to revise the Issn or fix a link? It's it's really tough. It's probably not that tough. If you are the owner of that link, or that isn or something. But when you're a library and just saying, Hey, you've got the wrong isn in there, and our and students are coming in. And it's linking to the wrong record, not because of us, but because of you. Yeah, II can't. I haven't. It's probably been 2 years now, and
I
Nancy Babb: can't get a response. But what I can do at least is add this little message for anything coming in from Google, which is the Rfr. Underscore id.
Nancy Babb: That's what I'm taking from that that CTO information that Michelle pointed out. So anything that comes in from Google that would be coming from Google. Scholar. That has this particular Issn, I can offer a note that says, is this, not the correct journal article. Here's why, and here's what you can do about it. We could do the same thing with the search from pubmed right and
Nancy Babb: a number of different ways we could approach. That. Is it perfect? No, but at very least it's give some information to the researcher who is just like really stymied saying, I'm looking for external. You're just offering me Y journal
Nancy Babb: what the heck is going on. Well, here's what the heck is going on. And even if the end user doesn't necessarily see it
Nancy Babb: hopefully, if they reach out for help, then the person helping them can see it. So that's again. It's a
Nancy Babb: it's a stopgap solution for something that we'll keep trying to fix.
Nancy Babb: One other thing that we do
Nancy Babb: is use the gees to provide notes within the catalog record to help the user where they may be missing, just completely missing that information. Otherwise you can add a Gs by library or location. So this is where we can add alerts. So, for example,
Nancy Babb: up in the middle area, there, under, get it, you can see the what is delivery plus actually is one that's just where we're adding like help, information for using our delivery service. That's that's something a lot of folks are doing. But next to that, you can see, we've got
Nancy Babb: in a couple of different spaces a couple of different places to show that we can do it in a couple of different places. This note that says, special collections, materials do not circulate. This is, I. Wanna be sure that if something is held in our special collections that the user right away, though, or the researcher who's seeing this right away knows no question about it. These materials don't circulate now, ideally, I can not only have that label and a link to more information, but I
Nancy Babb: can also include a public note that says, Here's what you can do about it. No, they don't circulate. We want you to know that. But we're not mean. Here's what we want you to be able to do about it. And this is another place where, alas! There is a limitation to the system. Right now, if you're adding a link in, get it, the get it area and how to get how to get it, which you would be doing for physical materials.
Nancy Babb: The public notes don't display, and it's because there's just not enough room for them to display. I believe that's all I can figure out from it, but you can display
Nancy Babb: public note in the links area or in the view it area. But of course, view, it is only going to display for electronic materials. So that doesn't help. But in any case. here's a problem. Here's a way that you can't fix it as much as you'd like to, but it's it's there.
Nancy Babb: and and a solution to that, potentially, you could display it in both places. Yeah.
Nancy Babb: Another thing is, if there are some what you know to be problem searches or problem materials. This is something that we? We tested a lot. Some of these we put in place, some of them we tried some of them. We've turned off, but, for example, for a while newspaper searching was
Nancy Babb: so terrible. I was, gonna say, it's the big, my existence. Well, it's maybe not that terrible. But it was very, very difficult for our students. It's become much, much, much better, since we have the academic pass for New York Times, and since we have the links to our academic past subscription for New York Times. But before we had that we could offer this link that said newspaper search help, and it gave a little description of. they
Nancy Babb: may be indexed differently, and you can try a new search if you like, and then, if they would actually click on the the label itself, they'd go out to a page that would give them additional guidelines for searching newspapers for something like Wall Street Journal for Ub. Users like New York, New York times we have an academic pass. But, unlike
Nancy Babb: New York Times, we can't create
Nancy Babb: individual links into Wall Street Journal. They just don't support that. So we have a note there, basically saying.
Nancy Babb: not only do you need to set up your account. You need to do your search at Wall Street journal.com. So we can get you into Wall Street Journal. But bear in mind you've grown. I have to do your search yourself. And another thing we do is just add a link to ask a subject librarian and some other link for help. So this is we put them in by different
Nancy Babb: criteria, so that newspaper search helped when we had that. That was just if someone was doing a search that came up with the resource type of newspaper or newspaper article Wall Street Journal is based on the Issn and that ask a subject librarian link. We put that everywhere.
Nancy Babb: And let's see. Oh, okay, these are just some alternatives that I wanted to mention, just as a if you're looking for something different, or you'd like to do something that you can't quite do
Nancy Babb: with the custom. Ges. You can add notes to the catalog record or not within the catalog record, but to the display using your custom. Js, your custom. Javascript file in primo. So this is a case where
Nancy Babb: we were looking at this problem of users don't know how to get the materials, and they can see that something is available, but they can't.
Nancy Babb: They don't know what to do once they get there. So this is a case where once the location is open and they see the item.
Nancy Babb: This detailed message about, how do I get this material is displayed? And if the person closes and goes back out to view the location it's hidden. It only displays with the item record. And so that is triggered to display anytime. The item record is displayed anytime. The item is open and displayed.
Nancy Babb: Another alternative is to use a resource recommender which you can set up to be triggered. According to, you know, certain keywords.
Nancy Babb: We thought I thought
Nancy Babb: at first that oh, I'm sure that people must be coming into our primo instance, and they're searching for library hours, and they're searching for where do I find my books? Where do I find my locker? How do I do this thing, that thing? Actually, as I've looked at our statistics, our our searches and everything. I actually don't find that a lot. II don't know that folks are really doing that which is, I think, a good thing. But in any case
Nancy Babb: I had thought, Wow, it probably would be really helpful if I could add something where, if someone search for library hours, they'd get this message about. Oh, here's the library hours. Yeah, we could do that. Well, we can do that. But we we don't, because generally there.
Nancy Babb: not really searching for that, but that is something that we can do, and especially we can do that if we want to give an alert it's ideal if we can do it more broadly than Justin Primo, but we have the ability to do it within primo, and the
Nancy Babb: default banner display. That it's levers introduced is rather
Nancy Babb: distracting. It's not the prettiest thing. It's got some really crazy, big.
Nancy Babb: graphic effects in it and everything. And just being adjust and band. Today, I guess
Nancy Babb: Justin did figure out some custom Css. For this that allows you to create a much less obstrusive banner, and it it shared in the primal hats
Nancy Babb: site. So if and if you're not familiar with that primo ha site, so that I have the link there, that's a community site where people from all around the community. The international community actually share their tips for Cs Css. Javascript. Other ways of fixing and doing different things in Primo. So it's it's super helpful. And if you have a trick and would like to add it there, it would be great
Nancy Babb: and I think Michelle will probably also find that helpful, because, instead of getting requests to add something to a sunny FAQ. People now can put it at the primal hack site. So hey? For primal hacks?
Michelle Eichelberger: That's great. I didn't know about that, Nancy. Thanks. Yeah. Man who set it up
Michelle Eichelberger: very cool. And I think that's the end of our slides.
Michelle Eichelberger: Are there questions?
Jill Locascio: I have a question I think I know the answer, but I may as well ask and see if I'm wrong.
Jill Locascio: is there any way to display a GES.
Jill Locascio: depending on the view
Jill Locascio: of your primo?
Michelle Eichelberger: I know you can change labels based on view with a special thing. But I don't know about Ges. What do you think, Nancy? Do you think in the code for it, can you?
Michelle Eichelberger: So the Gds. The Gs itself!
Nancy Babb: If your view is user, dependent, so your view is only for particular users, then
Nancy Babb: you may be able to display a GES. Only for
Nancy Babb: well, it wouldn't be only for that view. You can display a Gs. Only for a group. Particular group of users because of display logic, right, discovery, display logic that says, hide it for some users and not for others. And you can do that with the Gs. And several other things your Javascript. So if you're doing a a note or something in your custom, Javascript, that's by view, so you could do it. There. I don't.
Nancy Babb: I don't know of a way to do it by.
Nancy Babb: I don't know of a way to do just a a Gs. Itself by view.
Michelle Eichelberger: because it's based on the records, Jill. It's based on the stuff coming from the Cdi. So if you had a view that was really
Michelle Eichelberger: limited to a certain section of the CDI or Alma records. It's totally based off the search and bid records.
Jill Locascio: Yeah, I was doing some experimenting or the use case in particular. We have we? We subscribe to a really small database that indexes some optometric literature and
Jill Locascio: they that. Their their linking just isn't isn't good.
Jill Locascio: so it always links. It always makes it seem like we don't have the article when we do, and so something I was considering. Unfortunately, I can't filter by the source because they built their database on primo. So the source is, you know it. It looks like it's coming from from where we are instead of where it is. So I was
Jill Locascio: considering creating a view just for this
Jill Locascio: resource and then updating our base. Yeah, URL with them. So it would be
Jill Locascio: somewhere in there, and I could latch onto that. And the testing I was doing yesterday
Jill Locascio: was showing that there is no way in the seat in the CTO. To grab that where I thought maybe you could.
Jill Locascio: but I'll probably just do something with Javascript with a note, but I still don't know how I would, you know, pull in.
Jill Locascio: So you're looking for like people coming from there to Primo with a link resolver. Or you're talking about stuff they're finding and primo to go out to that, no people coming from. So if someone is in that database and they hit our services, page, and it looks like, you know. We only have it in print. We don't have a full text link out to it.
Jill Locascio: Instead, they would see a link that I would.
Jill Locascio: Bill, that would do just like a regular primo search for the article title which would most likely pull pull it up correctly.
Jill Locascio: and
Jill Locascio: you know, that link would appear if it you know, in in this certain view. So yeah. So the Rfr id, like the referring id isn't specific enough.
Jill Locascio: It's like, I'm a local, not our local.
Michelle Eichelberger: No, it's an interesting use case.
Jill Locascio: Yeah, I mean, it's really specific. I figured I'd ask. I'll probably mess around with some
Jill Locascio: custom. Js, to at least have you know, a note or something? No, no, it's not. You can't limit it by a specific
Nancy Babb: collection or title, or Issn, or any sort of unique identifier or group of unique identifiers by any chance, could you?
Jill Locascio: No, I don't think so, because then, just in regular primo searches. If those conditions were met, then there'll be
Jill Locascio: an additional confusing link, I think.
Michelle Eichelberger: but you could, if you set it up as a collection. You could use display logic to hide it if the real link show, you know, if the good link shows.
Nancy Babb: yeah, that would work.
Jill Locascio: Okay, that's something to think about. More. My, my brain just kind of I don't. I don't want to just spend time shooting my issue of other people have questions, but I'll I'll I'll I'll look back at these slides and see if this is something I can work through. Thank you. Yeah, if you feel like it. Put it on the
Nancy Babb: discovery interest group as well. And maybe we can all battered around together.
Jill Locascio: Okay, thanks.
Michelle Eichelberger: Yeah. And Maureen's making a good point in the chat
Michelle Eichelberger: about all the different.
Maureen Clements: It's incredible. It's incredible, like it just tracks each one of the headlines and shows you how often it changes throughout the course, and then they could change it weeks later, too. So it just happens constantly. and then you sort of see the evolution of what a headline actually is. So it is really fascinating, although I'm not
Michelle Eichelberger: matching that we're used to.
Nancy Babb: It was so frustrating before we we got the academic pass for New York Times, because our faculty
Nancy Babb: would say to their students, Oh, you know, you're gonna be searching. I want you to search New York times. You're gonna find this article on the web and then search for it in our everything search. And and you just follow the newspaper link to it. And what would happen is, either they wouldn't find it because the title didn't match or they would find it, and the link wouldn't work, because it actually is a title for web content that wasn't available in the aggregators, although the records would appear in the primo search because they exist in the Cdi. Oh, it was terrible. We had faculty
Nancy Babb: thinking we were so
Nancy Babb: dumb, and our our system was so stupid. It it was. It was really terrible. It's much better now, but only because
Nancy Babb: only because we have this other other subscription, and we're able to build searches, smarter searches into it
Michelle Eichelberger: any other questions. Thoughts
Michelle Eichelberger: alright. Well, thank you so much for attending this session. We did record it, and I will post the recording, and I hope you all have a great rest of your day.
Nancy Babb: And if you do come up with any questions or anything you want to discuss guys, please come to the Discovery interest group. And and it's it's really fun, I think, and helpful to share our our questions and and work with each other. And together we can get a left on.