00:24:11 Carrie Marten (Purchase/PUR): Can you put the link to Curtis' article in the chat? 00:24:26 Susanna - Tompkins Cortland: https://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2019/09/05/guest-post-cost-per-use-overvalues-journal-subscriptions/ 00:24:32 Carrie Marten (Purchase/PUR): Thanks 00:42:55 Holly Heller-Ross, Plattsburgh: Are these PDF's accessible for ADA? 00:42:55 Jin: Is there a price when requesting the article? 00:43:08 Rebecca | SUNY Polytechnic: con = cost is unpredictable 00:43:50 Jin: How do we know the price? 00:44:27 fergen: IF we get rid of a conglamerate service like Elsevier, where is the indexing for some of these sources coming from? 00:44:38 Jin: Thank you. 00:44:48 fergen: This is Kerrie Wilkes :-) 00:45:58 fergen: Thanks. That is good news. 00:46:51 Michelle Eichelberger: note that if you didn't have any other full-text to fulfill that indexed article, you might not see the indexing until you expanded your search. But the indexing won't go away. 00:56:19 Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Shannon, what’s the rule of 10? We’ve never heard it before! 00:56:40 fergen: Ok. Got it....so you need to click on the expanded resources in Primo. Thanks Michelle. 00:56:47 Alana Nuth (Geneseo: We thought we missed something! We know about the rule of 5. Thanks! 00:57:04 Jennifer Smathers: But if you have legacy access then years 2-5 don’t count. 00:57:17 Holly Heller-Ross, Plattsburgh: Any update on the SUNY-wide institution? 00:58:00 Holly Heller-Ross, Plattsburgh: So we can borropw from each other without counting to 5 00:58:22 Holly Heller-Ross, Plattsburgh: OK!! 01:06:07 Brenda Hazard HVCC: For Hudson Valley and many other SUNY campuses, the Elsevier subscription is not paid from the library budget, but from another campus SUNY recharge budget. If the Elsevier Big Deal is discontinued, my library will not realize any savings (the campus will get a savings but no guarantee that will make its way to the library). So adding document delivery service like a Reprints Desk subscription represents a new cost for the library. Are there any plans to provide a optional SUNY Reprints Desk subscription that could come through as a recharge to campuses? This also assumes that a campus can cap the maximum amount of dollars spent on articles on demand in a given period. 01:07:44 Alfred State: Where will the money go? 01:07:44 Brenda Hazard HVCC: thanks for considering 01:11:30 Sarah Morehouse, ESC: Same. If we have to add Reprints Desk to the library's budget it just won't get funded. 01:12:07 Jennifer Smathers: Messaging that went forth from SUNY Faculty Senate recommended to campuses that any money saved from a delay on a big deal would remain with the libraries to fund alternative access. (Not exact wording) 01:13:47 Holly Heller-Ross, Plattsburgh: Maybe No contract, but if there are terms and conditions, our purchasing office will want to review, along with an accessibility VPAT. I'd love to see another campus agreement or invoice so I can talk it over with my purchasing office sooner rather than at point of need. 01:14:09 Jin: Will the article charge be input in ACQ per your experience 01:15:35 Holly Heller-Ross, Plattsburgh: Agreed, and I'm not going to throw out my books just because they are not accessible in their original forms! 01:15:45 Jin: yes, invoice 01:15:59 Holly Heller-Ross, Plattsburgh: Gotta go, thanks!! 01:16:26 Jin: Thank you1 01:16:33 Chris Rudecoff Morrisville: thanks! 01:16:40 Lauren Jackson-Beck: Thank you Shannon! 01:16:51 Susanna - Tompkins Cortland: Thank you. Happy weekend!