Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Good morning everyone will be starting in about five minutes.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Alright, everyone will be starting in about one minute.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Okay everyone, let's get started. It's 11 o'clock. Can everyone hear me okay
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Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Okay, wonderful. I just wanted to check. Okay, thank you. So I'm good morning. My name is Alina Knuth, I'm from SUNY Geneseo and this morning. We're going to be talking about testing access to electronic resources and primo
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: I want to give credit to Michelle who created the slides for me. So thank you so much for all your help and preparing for this Michelle.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: And I also want to mention before we get started on that. This training is going to be the first of several sessions on Iran basics. So we're going to be offering once a month on a one hour training covering a different task or function and electronic resources management in Alma
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Once a month. So now through May and we're also going to be offering and Aaron advanced series.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: And more advanced functions relating to ear. I'm an Alma and the topics for each month are going to kind of
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: complement one another. So it's a good idea to kind of keep track of of both of those trainings, they have been announced in base camp and will be announced in base camp. So if you haven't registered and are interested, keep an eye out in base camp for those notifications.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: So, um, for the next hour or so we're going to be looking at different ways to test access to electronic resources in primo
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: And we're also going to look at what we should be checking for when we're looking for access. So what are some clues. When access is working correctly or when it's not working.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: We're also going to talk about the expected times for primo publishing and indexing. So sometimes when we make a change in Alma
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: That change does not automatically go into effect in primo sometimes there's a bit of a delay.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: And then we'll wrap up with looking at some really basic troubleshooting questions to consider if you do encounter an issue with access and are trying to kind of start that troubleshooting process.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: So like everything and all my you do need certain roles in order to do these tasks. So you would need to have one of following roles.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Either electronic inventory operator electronic inventory operator extended repository manager or CDI operator. So once we're you know fully implemented with a central Discovery Index that CDA operator role will become more of a become more of a, an important role to have
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: So we're going to be talking about testing access and primo but it's worthwhile to also test access and Alma. So everything that displays in primo
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Has to be activated and Alma correctly in order for that full text access to work if there's an issue and Alma, it's going to be an issue in primo so it's a good idea to start testing and Alma and making sure that everything is set up correctly.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: A big portion of testing is making sure that the linking is set up correctly. There's different options for linking there's a static URL or a partial parameter
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: And it's also good to check to make sure all the necessary parameters are in place. So some vendors do require additional information.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Will be using a gale resource as our example this morning and Gail does require a location ID EPS go and pro quest or other vendors that require these parameters such as account ID or customer ID.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: So I'm going to be jumping between the slides and Alma, so I apologize that that gets confusing.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: But the good thing is everything that I'm already doing all my is documented on the slides. So if you need to look at them again later. Or maybe if you miss something on the slides will be available. You'll be able to see it. Okay, so let's jump over to Alma
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: And actually, let me pause before I start actually doing things in Alma. Does anyone have any questions about what we've covered so far.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: If you do, you're welcome to send a chat or you can unmute yourself and just speak and I can, I can answer you.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Okay, I know that was kind of introductory information, but I try to remind myself to stop for questions along the way. Okay, so we're going to be using a gale example, like I mentioned earlier, and the look all remembers. We're going to be using business insights as our example.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: So we're searching the institution zone for this electronic collection called business insights. We're, we're testing with the assumption that access has already been activated. And we want to make sure that it was activated correctly.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: And because it's already been activated. It's in our institution zone. Okay, so we would have
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: We strongly, strongly recommend suppressing the bib record for your electronic collection.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Because the linking at the bib record for the electronic collection is often incorrect and could cause a problem and primo so when we test access, we're going to be looking at the service and at the portfolio level to make sure that set up correctly.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: So we'll use the ellipse sees
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: will select Edit service.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: So this brings us to the electronic service editor and we're going to dive right into the linking tab.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: So most of our resources are going to be set up where we're using the partner and partner parameters.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: And this if you've activated something from the community zone should already be populated. So, and we're telling all my to use parcel parameter here.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: And this is a gale resource. So you'll notice that part of the you're the parcel parameter is using this Luke ID and then you can see the name of the database that business insights essentials and the URL.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: For the database. So because this is Gail and it's relying on this location ID. We want to make sure that that information is properly entered into Alma. Okay, so what we'll do, we'll just scroll down
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Quickly as an aside, and notice the proxies enabled and you'll see that your location ID and your this article is set to yes
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: So if you are not sure what your location ID is you can check if you have access to your, your admin dashboard for Gail
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: You can see it there. Or you can also just contact Gail directly and they should be able to tell you I'm not all the Gale Databases had this article field, right. Some of them are for ebooks, so they wouldn't have it. But if this field is here, you do want to set it to. Yes.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: So you would. So if you were testing for access you would verify this information. Now for a second. I'm going to jump to the slide. So, excuse me, um,
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Let's escape out of here. Hold on. There is an FAQ available that I think Shannon put together. It doesn't really match Shannon put together. Okay, it doesn't
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Really matter. But anyway, this explains in more detail whole how these parameters work. So you'll notice that Gail pro quest ABC Cleo
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: That and Westlaw are all vendors that require this additional information. So this is something worth checking out on if you're testing access for Gail resource or if you're going through some of your other resources from different vendors that do require this information.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Okay, let's go back to Alma. Okay, so that's kind of what we're looking for in the linking tab. Let me pause. Does anyone have a question.
Okay, I'll keep going them.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: When you're in this electronic service editor. It's also worth checking their portfolio. So we'll jump to the portfolios tab.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: So just a reminder portfolios are going to be the journals, the eBooks, the actual streaming videos that are part of your electronic collection.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: So these are all the names of different publications that are available in business insights essential from Gail. Okay. And we want to make sure that this, this episode is working on, because this is really this is what users are looking for.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: So we can look at, um, we can just use this this as an example, this journal of cinema and media studies, we want to test access. So we'll use the ellipses and select test access
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: And oftentimes you're going to be prompted to look in a new window or you'll see the name of the vendor here the database name. So we'll click this link.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: If we were off campus. We would be prompted to authenticate. But I'm on campus. And here we go. So here's the journal
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: You can see this access, we could click on one of these volumes of these issues, just to make sure
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Here's all of our, our journal or excuse me, our article content and we can just make sure that's alive and well.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Oh, you know what, I don't think we have access to 2019. Sorry. Um, but this is Elise bringing us to the to the record for this for this for that article. So that works. We just didn't have full text available, but it did work.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Um,
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Okay, let's jump back into OMA
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: So you could test several of your portfolio's obviously you're not going to have to test them all. There's just far too many, but it's worth checking a couple especially like this one is for a book. It's not a journal that might be worthwhile to check
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: There is another way to check your portfolio's just as an additional piece of information, like many things and all mothers different routes to get to the same destination. So in your workflow, depending on what your workflow is locally. You could also test.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Let's, let's just do a new search here when you are searching your repository. Right. So here's the same resource we just looked at this, you can also just click on your portfolio list.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: And see this is the same list of portfolios that we just looked at, and you could simply test access from here, the functionality is identical. It's just a different way to get to the same information. And I'm just sharing it in case when your workflow. It makes more sense to go this way.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Okay, so let's jump back over to our slides.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: And we're just kind of, we're going to keep our slides up to where we belong here.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: So once you've tested in all mom. You can also test you. The next step would be to test in primo
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: So the idea is, we've tested. An Alma, everything looks like a setup correctly, everything should be fine.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: But primo is what you know that's the interface that your users are searching. So what really matters the most is how access is working in primo that's what really counts.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: So it's a good idea. It's a good idea to test access, you know, especially if it's a resource that's going to be put on course reserve.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Maybe you need to notify a professor who requested it for the research of our class. So this is all a good practice to verify that everything is up and running.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Before you you know before you go any further with this with that resource free notes and notifications or set it up, of course, reserve, whatever you may be planning on doing
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: It's also a very good practice to test access, both on and off campus. So occasionally you know access on campus will be working just fine. And there might be an issue with easy proxy and off campus may not be working. So it's a good idea to test both on and off.
Okay.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: We should also for a moment. Talk a little bit about the timing of things so very early in this presentation.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: I mentioned that changes and Ahmad do not automatically go into effect when you make an primo sometimes there's a bit of a delay. So when you go to test in primo if you don't find full text. If you don't find the resource that the bib record for the for what you think you should find
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Check for a minute or pause for a minute and make sure it's not a timing issue. You don't want to think that there's an access outage would really it's just an issue of waiting for a job to run or for the bid record to become available.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: So when you activate a journal, a book or a collection, I should say the bib records for the portfolios. So for the journals, the books, the streaming films they won't become available and female for 10 to 30 minutes
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: So you might activate testing almost everything looks great and Alma, but it's worthwhile to wait you know 30 minutes before you test in primo because
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: The baby record may not be there. And you may be thinking, something's wrong when really it's not
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Um, we're also going to be talking about checking access at the article and chapter level.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: And it's worth noting that searching at the article or chapter level will take a week to 10 days to be functional.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: So the reason for that is an availability job has to run and that job only runs once a week. So let's say I don't remember when it runs, let's say, at once. On Wednesday, I don't remember.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: If you activate something on Thursday. It could be a whole nother cycle for that availability jobs run before that article or chapter level searching becomes available.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: You can still test primo but just be aware that the functionality will not be quite what it should be, and also note that you need to make sure that you have the collection in the primo Central Index activated for that article loving article level, excuse me, searching to work.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: OK, questions there.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Okay, I'm going to carry on them.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: So when we're when we're testing a primo we're going to test we're going to test the portfolio, which is what we just tested in on what we're going to test that portfolio and then we're going to test the article or the chapters within that portfolio. So let's jump on over to Alma
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: So essentially what we want to do, or the way I think of it, and maybe it makes sense, maybe it doesn't. But we're doing a known item search and premium right. We don't want to just kind of blindly starts browsing and primo it could, you know,
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: We need to find a portfolio and search for that portfolio, just so we can verify that the access is working. We don't want to get tangled up and browsing, it's, it's less efficient.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: So we're going to use this
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: This resources business insights is our example we'll, we'll carry on with that we can look at our portfolio list.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: And I'm going to use that that one. We just tested this one here, we'll test this. Again, we're going to test this in primo so what we'll do, we'll copy the title of the journal or the portfolio will copy yet, and then we'll go into primo
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: And we will search to make sure that access is available at the portfolio level. Okay, for this journal. So we're searching for the journal
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Okay, here's the journal right we have 2018 access will click on a name, the title.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: And what we want to check is we want to make sure, come on. Okay. We want to make sure that the view online here. This is our service for this is our full text service here.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: So we want to make sure that this is working. So we're viewing online and we're testing this business insights essentials. So, and this see why that 2019 didn't work because we don't have the most recent year okay anyway. So we'll click on the name of the this is the resource for testing.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: And once again, we should see this is what we saw when we looked at all the portfolio. The journal. This is what we expect to see right and the same idea. If I click this
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: I mean, I'm not wrong. I'll click it again. But if you click an issue from 2019 we don't have full text, but we should be able to get down to a record here. Okay.
Whoops.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: So this is kind of when we're in primo. That's what we want to make when we're checking at the portfolio or the journal level we. That's what we're going to be looking for.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Now we're going to be talking about checking on articles and chapters, and we'll talk about that in a minute. But be aware that this would be another avenue to check your articles to make sure the article level searching is available.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: So, um, let's jump to the slides for a second. So we stay on task here.
Now, this is what we just did.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Now, so we tested at the portfolio level we check that it was working if I was doing this for real for my library, I would probably check multiple portfolios. Just to be sure, just
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: That's my own idea you know my own wanting to do that. And I would probably look for portfolios that maybe are different format like I checked books and I would check journals.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: We'd want to make sure that was working. We also want to make sure it was working from off campus.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: So once that's all set that's working correctly and you're confident, it's working correctly. We also want to test primo for the article and chapter level content.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Because, you know, a faculty member student may be searching for a journal, but they really want to get access to the articles within that journal. So that's what really counts.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: So note though that when we search primo the default search and primo will display content for which full text access is available.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: To see resources or content that is not available full text. We have to expand our search, right. So when we're in primo
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Close this, we would have to expand my results to see resources for which a full text access is not available, why I'm mentioning this is if you're testing for access and that availability job has not run
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: That article or chapter level searching may not be appearing way you expect. It should, in a default search, you may have to use an expanded search to see how that works. And to see that those holdings.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: It's worthwhile to test access before that that Java availability cycle runs and then afterwards, just to make sure that on the indexing is working. And then the full text access is available, it never hurts to test, you know, a few different times.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: So when we're testing at the article or chapter level.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: When we search for the portfolio, it was helpful to have a portfolio title. Right. So we were doing that known item search, we weren't kind of
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Wasting time browsing. We want to do the same type of search at the article or chapter level, you could technically search for the journal
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Right that journal that we looked at this journal of cinnamon media studies, and then you could narrow down your results to articles and you could do that. Right. It's just, it's kind of more steps and it might not really always be consistent on
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: It's a little bit easier if you find a name of an article or a name of a chapter, either from within all mom or I'm sorry over them a database or you can also just search for an article or chapter from that particular portfolio and use that to search
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: So I'm going to repeat that I feel like I explained that really awkwardly, um, let's jump back over here. So we're searching this business insights
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: I don't want to use this because we don't have full text. So let's go back to our search results.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: I can just grab my copy an article name from this database that I know we're supposed to have full text access to and use that to search primo rather than trying to awkwardly narrow down by resource type and by journal name.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: You would just grab your known items search from the database itself for what you know you should have full text access that makes. I hope that makes sense.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: So let's look at something from 2018 because that's what we have access to
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Oh, I guess I can limit it to full text only. Let's do that.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Oh my. Okay, so let's just find a title here that isn't okay this
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Sounds Okay, we'll use this one right so we can whoops going on. So we can copy, then we can copy the name of this article. Actually, I'm going to leave off this in focus, because I don't know. That means
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Alternatively, if you don't want to look in the in the database itself. You can also like just search do a Google search for the name of this journal. This is Journal of cinnamon media studies.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Search that Google. I'm sorry. Google that journal title search the table of contents and grab an article title that way as well. It's whatever makes the most sense for you. But once you have an article and you know you should have full text.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: My lips. Sorry. You can search that and primo
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Okay, so here's the journal and I that in focus was part of the title. There's the journal name winner.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: So this is what we're looking for. This is the article that we're trying to find and verify that access is working will click View online.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: will wait for everything to load and same idea when we're checking the journal titles. We want to make sure that this full text service is available. So we click on the name of the resource that we're checking
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: And while I here's the here's our article and is available full text. So this is working, it's working correctly because this was something that we activated when we went live with Alma, there's not a question of the availability job running
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: That's all set, we would also want to check from off campus as well.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: One item to also be aware of this article titles pretty straightforward. But if you grab an article titled it was full of punctuation.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: It might confuse primo so if you search for an article title and you come back with no results. It might be worthwhile to delete any of the punctuation, or maybe even delete part of the title because that could be giving you kind of
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Falsely telling you there's no results when really it's there. It's just primo was confused by the by the punctuation.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Okay. Does anyone have questions.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Okay, let me jump back to those slides.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Okay, so this is explaining kind of what I said in the most much more awkwardly, but that's explaining that
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Yep. And here's kind of what we just did we tested at the portfolio level and primo
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: And then we tested on an article
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: And here's the bit about the punctuation. Okay.
Okay.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: So let's say you've done your due diligence to tested and oh my you tested in pre mile you tested on campus you tested off campus and you encountered an access problem.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: There are a few basic questions that you can consider when you start trying to troubleshoot what's going on. It's really helpful to identify which system or systems is causing the problem because for our full tax access to be successful. Everything in all my needs to be working
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Vendor platform needs to, you know, be set up correctly. An easy proxy also needs to be working those three platforms are those three systems have to be working together properly in order for full text access to work.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: So for each of these items I I listened to questions and they're simple questions. If the answer to one of these questions is know the answer clue that that problem might very well be occurring in that system.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: So for example, if you search primo and you can find the portfolio or the journal and you can see all the list of databases for which full text access is available. That's good. Almost working
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: And when you click on a database name in the view online that section. If you're directed to the vendor platform or the login page for off campus access. That's also good. That means things are likely working correctly and almost, almost not the issue.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: If, when you get to the vendor top form you receive an error message. The items not available, you can't find the full text, the full Texas not available. That could be a clue that something's going on at the vendor side.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: It also really probably could be a clue that you're linking is bad. But anyway, it could be something with a vendor.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: And finally, if you know you've gotten that far but you receive a message when you're off campus that the host is not configured correctly.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Or you simply cannot authenticate properly went off campus, that's a sign that something's wrong in easy proxy or whatever your, you know, whatever service you're using for off campus access
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: So these are kind of questions. They're not 100% foolproof. But these are questions to consider when you're pondering, why access is not working.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Well, once you've kind of considered those questions you would then have to kind of take another step and that that next step would likely be to gather more information.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Or to seek the expertise of someone else in your library or on your campus.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: So that might be you're asking, you're asking your systems librarian for help. That may mean that you're checking with your campus it if you're a campus for which easy proxy or your proxies are handled by campus it
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: You may also want to consider making a post to base camp. So if you're not sure if it's a widespread access outage. You could post a base camp and see if other campuses are experiencing a problem.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: If you're not sure if it's an expected behavior or not, you know, this is really working or maybe this is how it you know you're not sure
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Bates, excuse me, base camp is another good resource for that and ultimately if once you've gone through those steps you may ultimately need to submit a case to base up to Salesforce, excuse me to Salesforce to actually for us.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: And when you're doing that, it's always helpful to take screenshots and and and give them the information that they need.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: I'm not going to kind of go any further with basic troubleshooting though because I'm in our advanced Iran.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Training that Michelle is teaching in two weeks that that session is going to go into much greater detail talking about how to trouble troubleshoot, especially when you're dealing with linking issues. So the
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: The
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: The registration for that.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Whoops. That's my training, hold on.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Well, I'm not going to. Oh, here it is. Sorry, guys. I thought I had it open. Okay.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Um, so this so in two weeks. Michelle is going to be training offering this training on advanced Iran on troubleshooting. So that's kind of going to take the next step as to what to do.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: If you do encounter an access problem. So we're done quite a bit early here. Does anyone have a question that I can answer, I'm happy to answer questions, please feel welcome to use chat or if it's easier just unmute yourself and just and just speak.
Alfred State: Hi this is James evolve from Alfred State.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Hi Jane.
Alfred State: I have a very, very, very basic questions and I thought I had a handle on. And yet, sometimes during these presentations. I don't. Can you look at your record like you have there and show on the record which part is coming from Alma. And which part is coming from PCI
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Oh, so what I mean I'm not even sure if I'm doing this correctly, what I've always done is looked and if someone knows something different than this. Speak up please. I always like if something's not working, look down here in the links and it will usually say on
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Like LinkedIn library catalog or like in this case it's saying link to view record in pro quest.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: I always used that. But I'm not even 100% orders is take us. I'm not sure that's even correct. So this is the full text and pre pro quest, hmm. Um, that is correct. It is great, thanks. Michelle.
Michelle Eichelberger: Any article level results are coming from the PCI
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Ah ok so that it would have been
Michelle Eichelberger: Record results that come, you know, if you have a journal or anything that you're activating an Alma in terms of a portfolio or
Michelle Eichelberger: That kind of thing that those records should be coming from Alma i'd can't say that hundred percent but but article or chapter level that's I was coming from the PCI, and I would just note that these links down at the bottom where it says
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: You record in progress.
Michelle Eichelberger: I would do your best to ignore those.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Okay.
Michelle Eichelberger: It was confusing and
Michelle Eichelberger: It's those are PCI links you really want to lead people to the full text online or the view online links rather than the ones down at the bottom of the screen, but they're so tempting down there at the bottom of the screen. So I know why people
Michelle Eichelberger: Look at those. But I would say. Avert your eyes if you
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Have those
Alfred State: I guess I get confused because, for example, I don't have PepsiCo turned on and the PCI
Alfred State: Um, you know what I mean. So when I see this here. I'm thinking, well, then that can be from the PCI because I don't have it turned on. But you're saying it is. Yeah. So you know what I mean, it just can't.
Alfred State: So,
Michelle Eichelberger: Jane.
Michelle Eichelberger: That's, uh, let's talk a little bit about that. So the content up at the top of this Elena. If you want to kind of scroll up a little bit.
Michelle Eichelberger: That index the indexing is coming from the PCI the fulfillment, for that is coming from almost so you're right that you see an obscure link. But that's coming from Alma. So, how it works, is you've got this index record from the PCI, it's an article
Michelle Eichelberger: And it's got an ISS. And so when you open this record, what happens is it calls out to Allah and says, hey, we have this is Sn, is there anything that matches that in Alma, and that's when it sucks in those links in the view online.
Michelle Eichelberger: So they're like the framework, the structure, the index that's coming from the PCI the fulfillment links are coming from llama based on the ISS on match.
Michelle Eichelberger: Does that make sense.
Alfred State: Yes, thank you.
Awesome.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Thank you, Michelle. I'm gonna yeah let's Oh my. OK.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: OK. OK.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: OK, so there's a few questions here. So let's kind of address these questions.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: So Jennifer Parker's asking, doesn't the CT. Whoops. Oh my goodness. Sorry, I'm doesn't the si te O show it, for the most part.
jennifer.parker: So this Jen I was trying talking and I was trying to answer. James question.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Oh, okay. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I should have open these up the chat up
jennifer.parker: Now, that's okay.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Okay, I'll look at a Nancy Bab is telling me what to do. Oh, thank you all for helping me
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Okay.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Okay, so, Yvonne is asking, can you go back to the Edit service for Gail and click View all services.
Sure, let's try that.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: So let's move this out of the way. Okay, so here is
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Here, here's our resources is what we've been working with we use the ellipse ease
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Is this what you mean. And it's maybe I misunderstood.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Okay so view all services and the service.
Susan Davis (UBUFF): A lot is that on the portfolio level maybe
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Oh, thank you.
Susan Davis (UBUFF): You know, but if you if you pulled up like to edit the portfolio. Do you get there or you did a search. I mean, I've seen that.
Susan Davis (UBUFF): But you're right. What place do you get it from
Yvonne Kester: You know, people up at the top. Yeah.
Yvonne Kester: Yeah, go back and then up at the top it says you all services out there. Yeah.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: I have never used this before. How exciting.
Yvonne Kester: Okay.
Susan Davis (UBUFF): But you said it during your presentation.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: A lot didn't just say, well, but I've never looked at this stuff like I've never, I probably should not be admitting these things during trainings, but I've never even noticed this little button before
Yvonne Kester: So I just found that this morning and I saw that the proxy was not enabled here and I see that it's not here either. So maybe that's just
Michelle Eichelberger: I don't think you need to enable it. There you have it enabled on the full text service this I don't
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Know the collection editor. Yes.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Yeah.
Michelle Eichelberger: I would just focus on the full text service and do all your editing there.
Michelle Eichelberger: So it's cool to look at that. But generally, there's only full text or selected full Texas service possibilities. So most of the time you're only going to have
Michelle Eichelberger: I would say, pretty much all the time, you only have one service. So I would just focus on the, the one service that you've got now.
Susan Davis (UBUFF): And here. Yeah.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: And the service itself is prophesied. Yeah. Right. Right. Okay.
Susan Davis (UBUFF): We'll see a llama. You were just doing what what Michelle said you're focused on the things that makes sense. And sometimes, looking at all that stuff that's out there just confuses you even more.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Okay, let's look
Susan Davis (UBUFF): And everyone, hope.
Susan Davis (UBUFF): And then you're like, Oh no, I don't understand.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Well, I think it's ironic. I'm looking at the chat and everyone's trying to help me find where I'm clicking. Oh dear. Okay, any other questions that are left. Yep. So the slides are going to be posted along with the recording.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Does anyone else have a question that I missed on here.
I don't think so. I think I got them all.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Any other questions about
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Verifying access checking linking any of that.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Okay, so, um, thanks Stephanie on. So I'm going to wrap up, then I don't want to
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: shortchange anyone a question, but I'm sure we all have
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: No other things to do. So if anyone has anything else, please feel free to chat or speak. Otherwise, I think we're gonna wrap up.
Michelle Eichelberger: And I'll just put in a plug for next week's session, which is going to be on a
Michelle Eichelberger: Sort of we're six months into primo. What are some things you could do now that you have some breathing room, I'm kind of excited about. I'm putting together right now.
Michelle Eichelberger: And I think there'll be some cool ideas for things you may already know about are some things you may not know about. So feel free to sign up to 10 that session.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Thanks, Michelle. I'm sure it's gonna be great. Yes. And we can sign up and live
Susan Davis (UBUFF): Well, yeah, maybe this is for for Michelle's advanced session, but we see
Susan Davis (UBUFF): A number of times the article won't, won't resolve because there's bad metadata, usually with supplements.
Susan Davis (UBUFF): So,
Susan Davis (UBUFF): Maybe you could address, like how you can tell it's it's bad metadata versus bad system, so to speak, so
Susan Davis (UBUFF): Sometimes it does take a while for us to finally glean the fact that oh yeah you know that there's something wrong in the citation and
Susan Davis (UBUFF): In how we use trying to link to the wrong thing. We, we, we see that I think a lot of apps go but it's usually a supplement because those for whatever reason the open URL. However, it's constructed maybe everybody has a chance to figure out their own version of it is, it can often be crazy.
Michelle Eichelberger: Yeah, I think that's a great idea, Susan. We'll cover that in a couple weeks. I may even run my slides by you. Before we end the presentation because I'm just not in it in the nitty gritty anymore like I used to be so, but I think that's a really good thing to talk about.
Susan Davis (UBUFF): Don't you miss it.
Susan Davis (UBUFF): You don't have to answer that Michelle.
Michelle Eichelberger: Many things
Susan Davis (UBUFF): Probably look 10 years younger. Because you're not dealing with it.
Michelle Eichelberger: Oh, come on. I'm dealing with the CD. I do know.
Susan Davis (UBUFF): That's right. Excuse me. Yes. Now, no, no. Yeah, yeah, the grades are sickening. Yes, I know.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Oh dear. Oh my.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Okay, then any, any last minute items before we sign off, and yes, so please I think Michelle Sasha is going to be really great in a couple weeks. And you should be seeing the registration page for that. So please register.
Alana Nuth (Geneseo: Okay. Well, thank you, everyone.