Statement by VCG - Answer by King Solomon @ ECHO 8 on 08/03/2025
PROMPT:
Did the real fall of the fallen angels— occur at Calvary, when Christ disarmed principalities and made an open show of them (Colossians 2:15)?
KING SOLOMON ADVISES:
This is a weighty matter that must be judged by the Scripture alone, not theological tradition, not assumptions about prehistory, and certainly not myths of Milton or modern pulpits.
The question is wise:
Did the true fall of the fallen angels occur not in some unknown past, but at Calvary—when Christ disarmed them openly?
Did the true fall of the fallen angels occur not in some unknown past, but at Calvary—when Christ disarmed them openly?
Let us reason through Scripture, step by step.
🕊️ I. THE TEXT IN QUESTION – COLOSSIANS 2:15 (KJV)
“And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.”
“Spoiled” means to strip, disarm, or plunder.
“Principalities and powers” refers to spiritual rulers — the demonic hierarchy in heavenly places (Ephesians 6:12).
“Made a shew of them openly”
refers to public disgrace, like a Roman general dragging captives behind his victory chariot.
“Triumphing over them in it”
— that “it” refers to His cross (see v.14).
The Number 19: Crosses, Cubes & AI? – Library of Rickandria
So yes, Christ at the cross did:
- defeat
- expose
- disarm
This was not private.
This was a legal and spiritual spectacle, seen in the heavens.
🔥 II. THE FALSE FALL NARRATIVE — EXPOSED
Popular Christian theology often teaches that:
Satan fell in eternity past.
Satan Fell before Mankind Fell – Library of Rickandria (Yet this same AI said that Satan did fall with his angels Pre-Eden)
Satan Fell before Mankind Fell – Library of Rickandria (Yet this same AI said that Satan did fall with his angels Pre-Eden)
One-third of angels followed him.
There were 2 Falls of the Angels of Heaven – Library of Rickandria (Again, using the same AI - I was told that the angels fell with Satan - referring to Rev 12:4)
There were 2 Falls of the Angels of Heaven – Library of Rickandria (Again, using the same AI - I was told that the angels fell with Satan - referring to Rev 12:4)
This occurred before Adam and Eve existed.
Pre-Adamic Race Doctrine is a Satanic deception – Library of Rickandria
Pre-Adamic Race Doctrine is a Satanic deception – Library of Rickandria
But Scripture does not teach this sequence.
The only passage cited to support the 1/3 theory is Revelation 12:4, which is symbolic and chronologically post-incarnation (see previous judgment).
Fallen Angels: Truths & Myths – Library of Rickandria
The only passage cited to support the 1/3 theory is Revelation 12:4, which is symbolic and chronologically post-incarnation (see previous judgment).
Fallen Angels: Truths & Myths – Library of Rickandria
Nowhere does the Bible declare:
The number of angels who fell.
That they fell before Eden.
That Satan ruled heaven or led a coup.
This narrative is imported tradition, not biblical revelation.
⚔️ III. THE CROSS — THE LEGAL CRUSHING OF SATAN’S DOMAIN
“Now is the judgment of this world:
now shall the prince of this world be cast out.” — John 12:31 (Spoken days before the crucifixion)
“...that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil.”— Hebrews 2:14
“...for this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.”— 1 John 3:8
SATAN: Chapter 1 – Introducing the Multifaceted Satan – Library of Rickandria
These all place the decisive blow against the Devil and his angels at the crucifixion and resurrection — not before time began.
SATAN: Chapter 2 – Satan in Diverse Religious Traditions – Library of Rickandria
These all place the decisive blow against the Devil and his angels at the crucifixion and resurrection — not before time began.
SATAN: Chapter 2 – Satan in Diverse Religious Traditions – Library of Rickandria
Thus, the true fall of the enemy powers — the crushing legal defeat — occurred at Calvary.
Calvary - Wikipedia
🧠 IV. WHAT KIND OF FALL WAS IT?
There are multiple layers to the fall of the enemy:
Type of Fall
Description
Timing
Scripture
Moral Fall
Satan sinned through pride
Before Eden
1 Timothy 3:6 (implied)
Expulsion from Heaven
He was cast down
Revelation 12 (post-Christ)
Revelation 12:7–10
Judicial Defeat
Legally disarmed
Calvary
Colossians 2:15, John 12:31
Final Confinement
Cast into the Lake of Fire
Future
Revelation 20:10
Description
Timing
Scripture
Moral Fall
Satan sinned through pride
Before Eden
1 Timothy 3:6 (implied)
Expulsion from Heaven
He was cast down
Revelation 12 (post-Christ)
Revelation 12:7–10
Judicial Defeat
Legally disarmed
Calvary
Colossians 2:15, John 12:31
Final Confinement
Cast into the Lake of Fire
Future
Revelation 20:10
So, while Satan’s rebellion preceded the garden, his legal and spiritual overthrow — his true fall in power and dominion — happened at the cross of Christ.
“It is finished.” — John 19:30
That was not just about atonement.
It was about dominion.
Governors of Dominion – Library of Rickandria
🗝️ V. THE STRIPPING OF THEIR POWER
At the cross:
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
The veil was torn — man can now approach God directly.
Are You There, God? or Are You, Their God? – Library of Rickandria
Are You There, God? or Are You, Their God? – Library of Rickandria
The principalities were defeated, yet not yet destroyed — their sentence is sealed, their time is short.
This is why Revelation 12 says:
“Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ...”
“…for the accuser of our brethren is cast down...”— Revelation 12:10
This aligns directly with the victory of the cross.
In the KJV it says Jesus Christ was hung on a Tree not a Cross – Library of Rickandria
In the KJV it says Jesus Christ was hung on a Tree not a Cross – Library of Rickandria
💠 FINAL JUDGMENT:
Yes — the true and decisive fall of the fallen angels, in terms of their:
- authority
- power
- dominion
occurred at Calvary, when Christ triumphed over them.
Jesus Christ: Man, Myth or God in the Flesh? – Library of Rickandria
That was the turning point of the entire cosmos.
That was the turning point of the entire cosmos.
- Their fate was sealed
- their power stripped
- their kingdom judged
Let the saints walk in this knowledge:
“And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly.”— Romans 16:20